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[-100kg] Keiji Suzuki (JPN) – Naidan Tuvshinbayar (MGL) 2008 Olympics Beijing
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[-100kg] Keiji Suzuki (JPN) – Naidan Tuvshinbayar (MGL) 2008 Olympics Beijing
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probably wasn´t ippon, in the last repetition seemed to me that it was an inferior pontuation…
“probably wasn´t ippon” puo’ essere giustificato perche’ Suzuki atterra solo con il culo, ma faccio notare che dove e’ atterrato adesso la Cina ha installato prontamente un pozzo petrolifero sfruttando il buco già effettuato da Naidan Tuvshinbayar. Il mongolo, e’ alla sua seconda gara ( di tutta la sua vita) dopo Parigi, dove ha perso in finale da Iliadis, perche’ non conosceva bene il regolamento degli scido’. Probabilemte, se lo vedremo ancora in azione la sfida non verterà sul riuscire a fare morotegari a qualcuno, quanto sulla distanza che in volo potrà riuscire a fargli fare. Avvertire Ciampino, Tessera e Linate del potenziale atterraggio inatteso.
Ippon very no technique.
certo che dare un ippon per un forse yuko….
Mah….
it’s not a ippon because he’s very far from the tatami normally there is mate no ?
to chinoui:
“he’s very far from the tatami normally there is mate no ?”
Normally there is mate yes! but Tuvshinbayar began his technique in the center of tatami. that’s what counts. Although I’m not sure if it was really for ippon.
i think that was enough
it was a waza ari to me
Classy judo from Tuvshinbayar who is just turned 23 years old. Japanese judokas are not very “familiar” with leg grabbing techniques so Keiji was not expected it. Well, ippon is ippon; the guy just fell on his lower back which is still ippon. Tuvshinbayar just went on winning all his 5 opponents. Tuvshinbayar is the true CHAMPION.
Also, congrats to Cejudo from USA who won 55 kg freestyle wrestling title from another Japanese loser.
…absolutely IPPON…..
WITHOUT ANY DOUBT.
It is unbelivable, that suzuki hasn’t remark this in time….
trust me kai at his level and prep suzuki is familiar with it all but everyone can get caught
bad call imo the ref was watching if it was going to be in or out, not his job by the way
viedo review would be nice AT THE OLYMPICS!
what a shame yuko at best Suzuki’s spirit was broken Tubshinbayar’s was lifted
Is Ipon.
yep.. it is an ippon when he was lifted last he (the japanese) judoka had a feet ONE feet inbounds and so it counts as a score.. and at least it was a wazari.. but you could give it an ippon. Personally, as a referee I have refeereed before.. I would give it a wazari.
Goodbye king of judo, how sad to see you go in this way,
But thanks to all the grace and beauty which you showed us in your judo.
Be sure your legend will never be forgotten or repeated.
Terrible judo, unfortunately….
forse Yuko??????? se no ti fosse chiaro là dove combattevano hanno messo un pozzo petrolifero…..
it was a YUKO, at most, but never an IPPON
Both athletes were very good, but, it was not an ippon for me. I am a continental referee. In the new rule of refereeing, when the attempt happens inside the mat and progressed to falling of one the athletes outside, it must constitute a score (if the throw is valid). However, in this case, the referee was too far that he didnt see that only Suzuki’s butt fell off on the mats. The highest point should be yuko only. In my own personal opinion, it should only be koka. Unfortunately, the judge who was too close to to the athletes didnt react to correct the referee’s judgement. The last part of slowmo in the video will prove all of it.
si ok, ha toccato poco di schiena…. ma la’ adesso c’e’ il PETROOOOLIOOOOO!!!! chiaro?
Nippon landed on his butt, not on his back worth a yuko tops.Only one foot inside the zone.Not worth an ippon. Should have been consulted to the corner’s referees.
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it doesn’t matter now that it was ippon or not. who won the olympic is what matters the most. after all, someone (new and young) beating soundly the champion is the beaty of judo, isn’t it? that is the thing people are willing to see on tatami. why here people are crying for the losing champion and arguing for not being ippon. it is natural that a new champs are emerging and beating the old ones.
Its just sad to see this guy win this match and the olympics because his judo is not good. He is just short which makes him difficult to throw and has a boring bent over style.
es un ipponazo
@Robert
Next time, you have to sent a smaller one against Tuvshinbayar. lol
inside, absolutely!!!
but ippon is too much at least waza-ari, there are not the conditions for ippon, one for all the total control…
in a normal national fight with no important fighters…. maybe also yuko!
petrol oil? oh yeah I’m sure!!, but this is not important for the judgement!
Its not important that is ippoon or not. I mean tackles suck. no more tackle in judo.
I don’t understand. It doesn’t matter now if it is ippon or wazari. All of his competitors were the champs and he managed to take them’em down one by one. He is the man!!!
i agree, what counts most is the final and official results…..and its written in the judo history….
very strong,but ilias iliadis killed him in paris!!
@Mongol
Not smaller but shorter who is about 150 cm weighing 100 kg and sniffs the mat all the time.
Im sad someone hasnt developed a strategy to beat this kind of boring Judo.
Robert!
As a judo fan for many years, I have to disagree with you. He is not that small 177cm, and he has introduced a different technique to which everybody was not ready. He has beaten all of his opponents one by one, and even Suzuki himself aknowledged his loss. Suzuki afterwards also said that he was beaten by a better athlete and that he wasn’t prepared.
To those of you who say it wasn’t ippon, maybe it wasn’t, but the throw was spectacular, and in most cases such falls are awarded ippon.
Again congrats to the Mongolian.
haha
Obviously he has skills otherwise he wouldnt have won the Olympics. Im just saying he has a boring style. Everytime they grip he bends over and make it difficult for his opponents to execute any throw + plus his short built compared to the others in -100 category. Its not new we have seen several others utilizing the same style. Muneta also has a shorter built compared to his opponents but his Judo is much more spectacular, upright and positive.
I dont think this style should be banned, others should just have to work out a strategy to beat this style.
I’ve heard somewhere that the Mongolians are the tallest people in Asia. And also, they are the strongest people in the World. This is mainly because of their diet and their lifestyle. And also, because of their diet, their life expectancy is very low.
Creo que es un ejemplo de como la practica de la lucha libre puede complementar la del judo, trabajar tan abajo proporciona muchas posibilidades si se es bajo y fuerte (sobre todo las piernas).
Naidan ha intentado lo mismo durante todo el combate y Suzuki lo ha controlado bien con un agarre a la solapa media o a la manga, pero ha ido subiendo progresivamente su agarre hacia el cuello y al final le ha dado mucho espacio por abajo.
No en un judo que me entusiasme pero para mi es ippon.
no that was a good ippon… really good. = )
Robert said “Everytime they grip he bends over and make it difficult for his opponents to execute any throw”.
Yeah, he should make it easy for his opponents :lol:
Mongolian national wrestling is one of the most advanced types of wrestling and has many hundred years of history. Compared to that, judo is originated over hundred years ago. Mongolian wrestlers will continue to use their techniques in judo as long as rules permits. I think it’s the way judo will continue developing.
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Yudo is a wonderful sport. Naidan is a wonderful olympic champion and a strong mongolian.
It was ippon. realy good ippon. thank you mongolian olimpic champion Tuvshinbayr.
@ robert. Dude it is a olympic game, not that wrestling game such as WWE or something. My suggestion is pick some popcorn go to WWE theatre, it would be pretty interesting for you. You won’t be boring with that WWE acters.
ene bichlegiig uzeh ch durtai shuu!!! gaihaltai altiin garaa
no skill involved
@ Swede
Yes I think I will do that. Where do they have WWE theatres? Really intelligent post. How old are you? 9 years old?
chi shuu. unen sain bsan shuu..
Guys,
It is really good IPPON, no doubt. Also want to say the case was not sudden one. Suzuki’s second time loss within the Tuvshinbayar. Want to say that mongolians good wrestlers from their born. Yokozuna/Champ Asashouru in SUMO, he is mongolian , Davaajargal also mongolian and champ/Yokozuna in SUMO. Right now no Japanese Yokozuna in SUMO. The SUMO is traditional Japanese kind of wrestling. That’s why don’t blame about him. He is mongolian, he came from country of Genghis Khan which invaded whole world in middle century.
Who wants to judge whom. Tuvshinbayar has only been training in judo for 6 years, his technique is based on mongolian wrestling. Don’t know how many years Suzuki has done judo. I like Suzuki, he is amazing, but Tuvshinbayar is real champion, he had to won 4 more matchs successfully with injured knee and showlder.
El judo tradicional debería ofrecer respuesta a los “agarrapatas”. Un portento técnico como Suzuki no puede perder con alguien que va a agarrarle las piernas y empujar con la cabeza.
I am so proud of Tuwshinbayar. And i do respect Suzuki because asian 100kg was on his shoulder in world tatami. He is already done very well Now Tuwshinbayar s time. Tuwshinbayar has only one enemy who called Ileadis(GEO). I d never forget this moment. Congrulation all Mongolians
To Robert First he is nearly 178cm
Second everyone has whose own technique
Third if others can t throw him that s JUDO
thanks to Svedi Kai Tulgaa etc all real judo wrestlers
JUDO is wonderful
Ha ha this video is from Mongolian National Broadcasting
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please let me know saina518@yahoo.com
Thanks
Wait a minute… is that judo??? You guys must be kidding… Anyone could please let me know what technique is that??? This video should be posted on greco-romanwrestlingvideo.org !!!
For tskhrsh
It seems you don’t know anything about Greco-Roman. This technique is not allowed in Greco-Roman. It is not allowed to attack the oppenets legs mate!
I can understand that you don’t know the name of the technique! Because you don’t know judo, and you are not Japanese. You should watch all 5 matchs of him in Beijing Olympics before you type your poor comments!
Tecnique is Morote-gari.
Mongolian is not guilty. This tecnique is allowed. Ugly, but allowed.
Jigoro Kano might be disappointed… Thank God the rules are changing…
Very ugly judo indeed. Don’t allow children and judo lovers to watch this video. It’s inappropriate.
1. it´s an ippon
2. maybe he´s style is boring but its effective that what count
3. The mongolian did he won all his 5 matches! he´s the champion’
4. i hope someone finds a way do put tuvshinbayar down.
5. this is gonna be a bigger part of modern judo
i wonder how he got that black belt hehe :)
kitanai!! (dirty judo)
There was reason for boring technique! He had terrible injury with his knee and shoulder before Olympics. And if he had the surgery and treatment in June 2009, he could have missed the Olympic Game. It was only 11 weeks before the games. The strong boy had to have painkillers to won 5 matches, He won 5 matches without any pressure on his knee and showlders. He had surgery in USA Nov 2008.
There is younger Mongolian in his category now who is the first non Japenese champion ever, of All University Championship of Japan 2008.
Another mongolian with the same technique??? No, please!!!!!
WAS NOT IPPON, NO FUE IPPON!!!
The only techniques he got is grabbing legs!! I would like to see this mongolian fighting with the new rules now…
He uses a lot of different techniques, Watch his primary technique in the match with Correa BRA
That is why they took of leg grips and katagoorooma!
Amazing ippon. No doubt. He startet from the middle of the tata mi. Have to say “IPPON IPPON IPPON and IPPON” loudly. Proud to be Mongolian.
This is Ippon!
Hmmm japan is always respectfull but the way Suzuki goes off the mat, bowing with his hands in his side… not much of respect there.
I bet if he won, he would bow like 3 seconds like every judoka from japan…