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[-66kg] Benjamin Darbelet (FRA) – Masato Uchishiba (JPN) 2008 Olympics Beijing
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[-66kg] Benjamin Darbelet (FRA) – Masato Uchishiba (JPN) 2008 Olympics Beijing
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Uuuuuh, that’s gonna hurt!
Well done, Masato Uchishiba!! ^^
Uchishiba was mean with this armbar. Bendjamin tapeout 5 seconds before he let him go
I really beleive that ground game is very dangerous about injures that’s why i like standing
Its not an armbar, its a classical pin, Ben gets pain cuz of the impact his head gets due to the slam it gets when he gets swept. And newaza is way more gently than tachiwaza.
All out
I think the referee made a big mistake. He made Masato fall down before the arm pin. Ben made a morote gari…and it should be granted by Ippon!
it was in newaza…
That could have been a tight armlock. Hard to tell from that angle.
Pitfighter, there are way more injuries in standup than ground work.
I think the Benjamin threw the JPN with an IPPON o-uchi-gari before being submitted but the referee didn’t call it. I think he was robbed.
Señores tremendo Ippon por parte de Japón,potencia del judo demostrando como siempre quye son dignos herederos de Higoro Kano…Por otro lado el francés estaba como asustado…
response to 6&9: i don’t think it’s a robbery not giving the ippon to the french considering the japanese started building his throw at 2:29 grabbing the head, it looked like the japanese threw himself back, and he still had control of the head throughout – darbelet was just trying to survive the storm and i dont think he put in a real counter to justify a point for him
i don’t think the japanese was mean either (point 3), the french was resisting the armbar and suddenly gave in, he first tapped on the japanese but the ref didnt see it, then he tapped on the mat, the japanese may have not heard the ref right away, and you should wait till you’re sure – nothing special there
sorry i don’t mean to look like i’m favoring the japanese but it’s just my opinion (i love darbelet as a fighter)
I dont think that would of been an ippon because it was uchishiba that pulled him down for ne waza. For how much i would like to see France win, that was a good win for Uchishiba
it wasn’t ippon for darbelet because he was on his knees and he didn’t stand up before doing the ouchi gari,to get the score you can’t do throws if have been pulled down and you don’t stand up.
it definitely looked like a cutting armbar (bjj term)
im loving the olympic judo tho
that was a clear ippon for the french man .. he got strangled .. stood up and threw the japanaes with ouchi gari … A ROBBED OLYMPI TITLE !!! BRAVO JUDGE
I have seen hundreds of ippons given and not given. I am a big fan of japanese judo – but no doubt in my mind Uchishiba very, very lucky not to have lost by ippon. Darbelet was in control Uchishiba lands flat on his back – in any language – IPPON!
this is ippon for the french guy,very clear to see,very bad ref and juds
I hope you all don’t judge it by the small video up-here. Because when i saw the match there was no doubting, the french didn’t stand up before the japanese started his turning technique. So to speak of an o-uchi gari already???
I don’t think so. The technique of the japanese started before the french stood up, so the ground fight is still on, so no ippons for throwing, even don’t talk about throwing.
daefyrion to understand this needs to be high judo level,you probably get your yellow belt reading a book or from intenet class,believe me this is IPPON!!!!!!!!
Allow me to share some thoughts from my perspective as an IJF Continental Referee: At around the 2:07 mark of the video, I believe Uchishiba should have gotten a penalty for a false attack-what seemed like an attemp at ippon seoinage which turned into an “inducing to newaza” situation. At the 2:30 mark, Darbelet executes an ouchigari and both competitors are on their feet; it should have been awarded an ippon, and the victory should have gone to Darbelet. In fairness to the referee and judges, the action was so fast it would have been difficult to detect at the exact instant it occurred. Nevertheless, I’m of the opinion Darbelet scored before Uchishiba did.
Uchishiba was the most tecnical player. But it was Darbelets ippon. You can see that Ben lift up Uchishibas left leg and throw him with a left o-ochi-gari
http://sport.rfo.fr/jeux-olympiques-2008/index-fr.php?page=article&article=1640
Benjamin Darbelet said,”Je n’ai pas envie de parler des problèmes.”
What did he mean?
That means ‘I didnt want to talk about problems’
I do not think that is was an ippon for blue. Before the ‘throw’ blue is a longer moment on both knees. That is a ne-waza situation. In ne-waza you can shortly stand up but it is still ne-waza and that is what happend. It was ne-waza and so no ippon. Absolutly correct from the judges. At about 2:07 I do not the a false attack. White attacks and blue evaded. There was no false attack.
What is the problems Darbelet didnt want to talk about?
Our french has been robbed he scored ippon!!!!!!! The referee is a prick
the nippon used a good counter. It is worth a wazari tops.Good counter to the frenchman. Finished him with Ude Garami from the mounted position. The nippon won the fight.Good counter, good ne-waza.
masato is very very xplosive
i can see what people are saying about the frenchmans ouchi-gari however i am of the opinion he had no control on the japanese fighter
and how can you ignore the snake the jake DDT that virtually knocked Darbelet out!!!! BOOYAAA!!
@radu now its no ippon for darbelet cause its newaza and an attack of the jon
2. JPN whas won with a armbar, its called ude-garami i think
hey rickyitaly,
its a bit losy from you to start picking on me about my comments,
maybe you sould read international judo rules, then you would speak different. You shouldn’t talk before you have the knowledge, they never learned you at training?
Anyways, it seems like nobody looks at the fact that Darbelet is actually in a strangle the moment he rises from his both knees. So he is definitly not in control of the situation. And what are the three major points for scoring an ippon, yes indeed, control – speed and technique.
Anyways, is still hold my previous comments.
Im sure the japanese trainers tell them to win hard and stone cold so that they have advantage next time .advantage of fear
This video is far to low quality to be able to make a reasonable decision on whether Darbelet threw him…
However my understanding of Ippon throw is when a contestant with control throws the other contestant largely on his back with considerable force and speed. If the other contestant has full control of your head and as a result you crack it into the mat when attempting to throw them, there is no way Ippon can be awarded. If we award Ippon for this dangerous play, we are promoting injury and inviting players to risk their neck to win. I would therefore personally not award Bardelet’s ‘throw’ any score (or any ‘throw’ where Tori injures himself), in fact, in this instance, I would penalise him for grabbing the trouser leg. However I would not feel any injustice if it was given up to Wazari if it was deemed that he does in fact throw Uchishiba. Either way, whether the refs score the ‘throw’ or not, I don’t think it affects the result of the final.
I think they are both great fighters and both deserve to win it but on this occasion Uchishiba won fair and square. And if he didn’t, I wouldn’t feel too bad. As a fighter I accept ‘wrong’ decisions against me as I know they eventually get balanced out by ‘wrong’ decisions against my opponents. It’s not ideal but we must accept the human element in the refereeing. I know an Olympic title is a stake but that is just the nature of Judo. Mohamed Ali Rashwan is a former World Champion and Olympic Silver medallist and no doubt way be placed and informed than all of us to make this decision.
So I would say it wasn´t an Ippon for Blue, probably Waza-ari… But blue comes out of ne-waza and from 2:30 – 2:32 you can see that white get in control of Blue. White, tunrns in his hip and lay himself down on the ground.
P.S. for all the guys out there (maybe of them are judges) and talk about the necessary qualification of the judges. Well… those judges have the IJF-Licence. And i think that we all can say: they´re really good in this Job. If you disagree than do it better. ;-)
P.S. i am a Judge too…and sry 4 my bad english
Muy bien hecho!!
Great example where slow motion review is inferior to real-time execution: the control of the head by Uchishiba is not switched, though Darbelet makes a heroic effort to o-uchi. Darbelet’s head-impact and near-immediate transition to osaekomi illustrates the control by Uchishiba. There is no overriding proof that Darbelet executed a standing techique. Good call by referee and corner judges.
Why so much mate?
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